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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2536</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people keep asking what formats work on the Kindle, so I thought I&#039;d post a link that has all that information in one place (it&#039;s from the Amazon Kindle forum so if you have additional questions, that would be the place to ask.  Those people know their stuff!)

http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&amp;cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&amp;cdThread=TxHIGJQQY7O6YW&amp;displayType=tagsDetail

There&#039;s a pretty complete list of formats that will upload to the kindle--with and without conversion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people keep asking what formats work on the Kindle, so I thought I&#8217;d post a link that has all that information in one place (it&#8217;s from the Amazon Kindle forum so if you have additional questions, that would be the place to ask.  Those people know their stuff!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&#038;cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&#038;cdThread=TxHIGJQQY7O6YW&#038;displayType=tagsDetail" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&#038;cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&#038;cdThread=TxHIGJQQY7O6YW&#038;displayType=tagsDetail</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a pretty complete list of formats that will upload to the kindle&#8211;with and without conversion.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2503</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s pretty clear they don&#039;t intend to remove the functionality--in fact, if any of the users thought about it, they would know it was there.  Readers can &quot;return&quot; a book (for various reasons).  So...in that case, one would think that it has to be deleted from the kindle.  Was Amazon just trusting the user to delete the book or has it been understood that they remove it from the archive and the kindle (Amazon keeps a record of what you&#039;ve paid for.  That way if you upgrade, delete it or otherwise lose it, you can download it again.)

I think they have said that they won&#039;t do a remote delete under similar circumstances.

The good news is that people are now aware.  If enough don&#039;t like the function they now know to complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear they don&#8217;t intend to remove the functionality&#8211;in fact, if any of the users thought about it, they would know it was there.  Readers can &#8220;return&#8221; a book (for various reasons).  So&#8230;in that case, one would think that it has to be deleted from the kindle.  Was Amazon just trusting the user to delete the book or has it been understood that they remove it from the archive and the kindle (Amazon keeps a record of what you&#8217;ve paid for.  That way if you upgrade, delete it or otherwise lose it, you can download it again.)</p>
<p>I think they have said that they won&#8217;t do a remote delete under similar circumstances.</p>
<p>The good news is that people are now aware.  If enough don&#8217;t like the function they now know to complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Power</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2502</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon: &quot;We are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers’ devices in these circumstances.&quot;

Ironic that their statement reads a lot like news-speak.  They&#039;re not saying (1) that they are going to remove the functionality from the Kindle and (2) they are also not saying that they won&#039;t ever do another remote delete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon: &#8220;We are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers’ devices in these circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironic that their statement reads a lot like news-speak.  They&#8217;re not saying (1) that they are going to remove the functionality from the Kindle and (2) they are also not saying that they won&#8217;t ever do another remote delete.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2501</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s been all over the discussion boards.  Lot of people were pretty disappointed.  Amazon has come out and said, &quot;Whoops.  We shouldn&#039;t have done that and won&#039;t do that again.&quot;  But it opened a lot of eyes that it COULD be done when most people never thought about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s been all over the discussion boards.  Lot of people were pretty disappointed.  Amazon has come out and said, &#8220;Whoops.  We shouldn&#8217;t have done that and won&#8217;t do that again.&#8221;  But it opened a lot of eyes that it COULD be done when most people never thought about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Power</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2500</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...  Wow.  Shame on Amazon for including remote control functionality to be able to pull off a feat like this.  Stuff like this is why I got into a big argument with a GM Brand-Marketing-Manager a couple of years ago about why I&#039;ll never buy a vehicle that is equipped with OnStar.

http://gizmodo.com/5317180/big-brother-amazon-remotely-deletes-purchased-copies-of-1984-and-animal-farm-from-thousands-of-kindles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;  Wow.  Shame on Amazon for including remote control functionality to be able to pull off a feat like this.  Stuff like this is why I got into a big argument with a GM Brand-Marketing-Manager a couple of years ago about why I&#8217;ll never buy a vehicle that is equipped with OnStar.</p>
<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5317180/big-brother-amazon-remotely-deletes-purchased-copies-of-1984-and-animal-farm-from-thousands-of-kindles" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5317180/big-brother-amazon-remotely-deletes-purchased-copies-of-1984-and-animal-farm-from-thousands-of-kindles</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2488</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a few hardbacks when I was younger and more impatient. What I found was they weren&#039;t worth 25 dollars.  These days, the library gets a lot of them anyway, so I just get on the waiting list for authors that I know will have a book out shortly (if they are popular.)

But if Kindle ever talks the publishers into real ebook prices (3 bucks) that would make it a sweet deal.  I buy ebooks now, but I am sure as hell not paying for the paper that isn&#039;t even there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a few hardbacks when I was younger and more impatient. What I found was they weren&#8217;t worth 25 dollars.  These days, the library gets a lot of them anyway, so I just get on the waiting list for authors that I know will have a book out shortly (if they are popular.)</p>
<p>But if Kindle ever talks the publishers into real ebook prices (3 bucks) that would make it a sweet deal.  I buy ebooks now, but I am sure as hell not paying for the paper that isn&#8217;t even there.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Power</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2487</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do buy the occasional hardback, but it&#039;s not a habit.  The purchase will either be because it&#039;s something I want &quot;right now&quot; and it&#039;s not out in paperback AND the price isn&#039;t outrageous, or if it&#039;s something I plan to keep for a *long* time - like my copy of the Silmarillion, or Poe&#039;s collected works, or something along those lines.  Often, I&#039;ll have a paperback copy (if available) as well for &quot;on the go&quot; reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do buy the occasional hardback, but it&#8217;s not a habit.  The purchase will either be because it&#8217;s something I want &#8220;right now&#8221; and it&#8217;s not out in paperback AND the price isn&#8217;t outrageous, or if it&#8217;s something I plan to keep for a *long* time &#8211; like my copy of the Silmarillion, or Poe&#8217;s collected works, or something along those lines.  Often, I&#8217;ll have a paperback copy (if available) as well for &#8220;on the go&#8221; reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2486</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are sooo right about history!

BMHusband and I have talked a lot about how it is like the music industry in many ways.

I guess what does intrigue me is the books that are coming out that aren&#039;t 9.99.  This has opened a whole can of...possibilities for authors (myself included perhaps.)  There&#039;s a few midlist authors that have talked their publishers into offering their books for 3 dollars or so (J.A. Konrath is the main one that has been blogging about it.)  The idea for authors is to gain a larger audience.  The great part for a kindle reader is that the purchase price is suddenly attractive.

I just read another small publisher that said they wouldn&#039;t publish in Kindle format because it would compete against their hardback price.  The problem with that argument is that the hardback buyer and the kindle owner are likely not the same audience.  I don&#039;t buy hardbacks.  If I owned a kindle, I still wouldn&#039;t buy a hardback.  I&#039;d wait for the kindle version, or like now, I&#039;d wait for the paperback or do without the book entirely.  There is so much to read, it&#039;s pretty rare that I just *gotta* have a particular book.  Even then, I can usually wait a few weeks and find it used.

Like I said.  I&#039;m not entirely convinced.  But I&#039;m interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are sooo right about history!</p>
<p>BMHusband and I have talked a lot about how it is like the music industry in many ways.</p>
<p>I guess what does intrigue me is the books that are coming out that aren&#8217;t 9.99.  This has opened a whole can of&#8230;possibilities for authors (myself included perhaps.)  There&#8217;s a few midlist authors that have talked their publishers into offering their books for 3 dollars or so (J.A. Konrath is the main one that has been blogging about it.)  The idea for authors is to gain a larger audience.  The great part for a kindle reader is that the purchase price is suddenly attractive.</p>
<p>I just read another small publisher that said they wouldn&#8217;t publish in Kindle format because it would compete against their hardback price.  The problem with that argument is that the hardback buyer and the kindle owner are likely not the same audience.  I don&#8217;t buy hardbacks.  If I owned a kindle, I still wouldn&#8217;t buy a hardback.  I&#8217;d wait for the kindle version, or like now, I&#8217;d wait for the paperback or do without the book entirely.  There is so much to read, it&#8217;s pretty rare that I just *gotta* have a particular book.  Even then, I can usually wait a few weeks and find it used.</p>
<p>Like I said.  I&#8217;m not entirely convinced.  But I&#8217;m interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Power</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, history is revised day-by-day.  ;)

No doubt it&#039;s either a boondoggle or a group of folks hideously out of touch with reality in oh so many aspects - not to mention that it&#039;s well established that there are a significant number of folks out there that simply cannot absorb any kind of signficant information from a screen.

There was also a knockoff of the Kindle-2 just now making the rounds in Japan that I&#039;d thought about posting a link to, but figured it wasn&#039;t significant enough to mention as it still would have been around $230 in converted currency.

A quick comment on the content prices: I think we&#039;re seeing a phenomena similar in some ways to what happened during the CD &quot;revolution&quot;.  It cost far less to produce and distribute content on a CD than by pressing vinyl - and yet the prices for CDs started out at levels twice that of a new &quot;hot&quot; album (and about 30% over special audiophile pressings).  There was, and continues to be, nothing to justify this price premium except that the production channel saw an opportunity to crank up their margins.  Though CD prices have drifted a little lower over the past 25  years, I believe they are still at a significant premium over what inflation adjusted prices for vinyl would be today.  In my view - this is precident(sp?)  alone is sufficient reason to resist the Kindle paradigm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, history is revised day-by-day.  <img src='http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No doubt it&#8217;s either a boondoggle or a group of folks hideously out of touch with reality in oh so many aspects &#8211; not to mention that it&#8217;s well established that there are a significant number of folks out there that simply cannot absorb any kind of signficant information from a screen.</p>
<p>There was also a knockoff of the Kindle-2 just now making the rounds in Japan that I&#8217;d thought about posting a link to, but figured it wasn&#8217;t significant enough to mention as it still would have been around $230 in converted currency.</p>
<p>A quick comment on the content prices: I think we&#8217;re seeing a phenomena similar in some ways to what happened during the CD &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  It cost far less to produce and distribute content on a CD than by pressing vinyl &#8211; and yet the prices for CDs started out at levels twice that of a new &#8220;hot&#8221; album (and about 30% over special audiophile pressings).  There was, and continues to be, nothing to justify this price premium except that the production channel saw an opportunity to crank up their margins.  Though CD prices have drifted a little lower over the past 25  years, I believe they are still at a significant premium over what inflation adjusted prices for vinyl would be today.  In my view &#8211; this is precident(sp?)  alone is sufficient reason to resist the Kindle paradigm.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/home/kindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2484</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I could count on you to comment on a gadget!  Although I didn&#039;t expect quite this comment...

I think they&#039;re smokin&#039; something. These devices aren&#039;t cheap.  Maybe someday, but even so...I&#039;m thinking they could just stick with old fashioned books and stop reprinting them so often.  I mean, math doesn&#039;t change that much.  Hasn&#039;t since I was in school that I know of.  Science, yeah, there are a few things.  English...not so much.

:&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I could count on you to comment on a gadget!  Although I didn&#8217;t expect quite this comment&#8230;</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re smokin&#8217; something. These devices aren&#8217;t cheap.  Maybe someday, but even so&#8230;I&#8217;m thinking they could just stick with old fashioned books and stop reprinting them so often.  I mean, math doesn&#8217;t change that much.  Hasn&#8217;t since I was in school that I know of.  Science, yeah, there are a few things.  English&#8230;not so much.</p>
<p>:&gt;)</p>
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